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Steven Forth's avatar

Both Canada and the US need profound change, but what that change should be and how to get to it is opaque to me. One idea, the Mont Fleur scenarios helped South Africa navigate the fraught post apartheid period. Would Canada benefit from a national and open scenario planning project? Would Vancouver?

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Pieter Dorsman's avatar

It is interesting that the European Union this week raised the alarm on its economy, they are losing to US and China. And are divided. US and Canada stand stronger but same dynamics apply when it comes to economic and urban renewal. There is a lack of consensus between left/right, the sort of consensus that helped built in the post-War period.

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Steven Forth's avatar

We should be paying a lot more attention to Canada's failing performance on per capital productivity (I know a problem going back 50 years). This will not be addressed by pretending to be a resource economy and it will require massive investments in innovation. But what it really needs is culture change and I am not sure how to get there other than to live it myself and support it in others.

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Steven Forth's avatar

Are you confident that there is a person who can be described as "the ordinary American"? The term is often used to deprecate people who live in cities, who are not culturally white, who have different ways of experiencing gender, etc. It is the sort of virtue signalling that rips apart societies and leads to cultural then economic stagnation.

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Pieter Dorsman's avatar

Let's call it the average American which is defined by income and his/her ability to build a life and create a platform for growth for their offspring. Some call it the 'middle class' which is the wrong term I think. America is culturally diverse, but less so economically.

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Steve Mudge's avatar

On spending Trump is projected to increase the deficit more than Harris, at least on what they claim they want to do.

Trump has some serious moral failings (ie--John McCain) and his solution to Ukraine and China is appeasement, and we all know how well that went with Chamberlain pre WWII. Cuddling up to dictators doesn't seem very American.

Harris is a big unknown, she has a heckuva sharp prosecutorial streak which could be valuable in foreign policy but she also seems to waffle, not quite sure of herself. I'm hoping she will dissociate more from the looney far left stuff.

Agreed on Josh Shapiro!

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Pieter Dorsman's avatar

Agreed on Trump deficits.

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Steven Forth's avatar

What do you see as some of the 'loony far left stuff'?

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